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Question: Is it possible to combine?
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« on: April 24, 2007 »

Recently, I was reading a blog of Walter Burek http://www.walterburek.info/ and found there so called "Copywriter’s Quote of the Week" which is:
“Many people — and I think I am one of them — are more productive when they’ve had a little to drink.
I find if I drink two or three brandies, I’m far better able to write.”

–David Ogilvy

So what is your opinion?
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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2007 »

I'm glad the quote on my blog attracted your attention. As for me, a "happy hour" before writing just won't work for me. I'm apt to end up doing more sleeping than writing. As for David, I have a theory that, since he did a lot of his copywriting in the days of the three martini lunch, the agency people and clients who thought his copy was brilliant may have been in worse shape than he was. Just a theory.

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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2007 »

...As for David, I have a theory that, since he did a lot of his copywriting in the days of the three martini lunch, the agency people and clients who thought his copy was brilliant may have been in worse shape than he was. Just a theory.

wgb/aka walter 42

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I chose "It depends on a person" answer, because you never know what can inspire a man. I drink very seldom and the reason why I drink is definitely not because of seeking inspiration Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2007 »

I don't believe in writing+drinking combination! That's immoral! Angry
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2007 »

Come on RaiNY, writing+drinking may be questionable but why on Earth you consider it immoral? Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2007 »

I don't believe in writing+drinking combination! That's immoral! Angry

I've voted no. I can not combine it because I need concentration to write. I may drink a bit of scotch to relax after writing, for me it is impossible to be relaxed and concentrated at the same time.  But anyway, RaiNY, don't be such a moralist. It is immoral to drink and drive and not to write and drink. Drinking had its impact on the literature we can't ignore.

"A friend of mine was teaching a survey course in American literature one summer session at the University of Houston. In the class were several older students, schoolteachers mostly. A teacher came up to him after class one day and said, "Listen, I just want to know why every single author on our reading list was an alcoholic!" The professor ran his eye down the list. Edgar Allen Poe. Stephen Crane. Theodore Roethke. Herman Melville. Delmore Schwartz. Scott Fitzgerald. William Faulkner. The school-teacher was right. Every writer on his list was an alcoholic."

"If he had not become such a drunk, would Truman Capote have finished Answered Prayers? If she had not turned to alcohol in such a destructive way, would Jean Stafford have finished the novel she worked on for 20 years? Would Caroline Gordon have finished her long novel about explorer Meriwether Lewis?"

You can read more about it here http://www.unhooked.com/sep/writers.htm
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2007 »

Yes, history has many examples when drinking and writing were successfully combined. For example Jack London and Ernest Hemingway used to drink a lot and this did not prevent them from creating masterpieces.  However the relation between alcohol and creativity is not yet proved. What if famous writers were not drinking? Would we have more works of art written by them?

For me drinking is not the source of inspiration. It is a source of fun  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2007 »


It is immoral to drink and drive and not to write and drink. Drinking had its impact on the literature we can't ignore.


Completely agree

Yes, history has many examples when drinking and writing were successfully combined. For example Jack London and Ernest Hemingway used to drink a lot and this did not prevent them from creating masterpieces.  However the relation between alcohol and creativity is not yet proved. What if famous writers were not drinking? Would we have more works of art written by them?


I think that the reason why so many writers used to drink a lot is not because of some special relation between being drunk and creating genius masterpieces, but rather because  talented people frequently have troubles in  social and private life. Their perception is different, they are not used to compromising if they have certain life principles, IMHO.
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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2007 »

Hello all. I'm a newbie here but this thread has drawn my attention. For me drinking and writing is the same thing that drinking and driving. Problem is that I am a technical writer and I use to write operation manuals and instructions for complex devices. I am responsible for the people who would work according to my instructions so writing and dinking are totally unacceptable.
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2007 »

Great topic! LOL

I personally think that drinking, if not much, may stimulate writing. You are more relaxed and may give way to your imagination Wink
Not that I practice such stuff frequently Cheesy
I firmly believe that any addiction is not worth possible brilliant results in creative field.
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2007 »

I favor healthy life-style. For me writing and drinking are two separate things.  Instead of getting one more shot of whiskey I would rather go swimming or running.  After some physical exercises I can continue working with a fresh mind but not hangover Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2007 »

I favor healthy life-style. For me writing and drinking are two separate things.  Instead of getting one more shot of whiskey I would rather go swimming or running.  After some physical exercises I can continue working with a fresh mind but not hangover Tongue

A bit of whiskey won't bring hangover to me. I like to drink aged single malted whiskey and for me that's the best source of inspiration. Of course I drink responsibly Wink
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2007 »

I've just visited once more Walter Bureck's site and saw no site there, just a Index of / and a list of files and directories. I know that this is a pretty off-topic, but what has happened with it?
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2007 »

well, I've just visited it - everything is OK.
may be it was closed for reconstruction or  some problem with server occured
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« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2007 »

I drink beer. But yesterday there were too much beer  Smiley  I have a hangover and words just go out from my head and I could not concentrate.
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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2007 »

How much is too much for you?
In Germany people drink a lot of beer. But I prefer wine
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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2007 »

I fill not up to the norm the next day after I drink more than 3 liters. I rarely drink wine but if I do I prefer a red one.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2007 »

With so much of my recent work centering on beer due to the UNOB website, it's actually quite an interesting subject for me.

In fact, I can't drink a beer anymore unless I am somehow able to capture my thoughts about it for the site! This often means I sit down with a new beer, open a Word doc and begin tasting and making notes.

If I'm nowhere near my PC, I carry a notebook around, just in case an impromptu beer review breaks out. My digi camera also has a video option, which I can shoot a review onto, or use it like a dictaphone and record verbal reviews.

As for "real" creative writing, I prefer a good supply of strong black tea to alcohol. I know Stephen King has published short stories that he wrote while drunk. They're pretty weird, which is saying something by his standards!
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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2007 »

So you mean when you drink beer - you write about beer? Ideas, materials, articles for the site? But what if new beer ends?
I.e. Columbus drink 3 litres, usually it is 6 bottles.
Imagine drinking 6 bottles every day and soon you will taste all beer that exists in the world. At least that beer which is possible to get.Smiley)
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